{"id":29,"date":"2007-11-13T20:41:11","date_gmt":"2007-11-14T03:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/2007\/11\/13\/the-uses-of-torture\/"},"modified":"2007-11-13T20:41:11","modified_gmt":"2007-11-14T03:41:11","slug":"the-uses-of-torture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/2007\/11\/13\/the-uses-of-torture\/","title":{"rendered":"The Uses of Torture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Discussions about torture in the public sphere seem like a classic case of people talking past one another. Military and government officials assert that torture is justified because it&#8217;s effective, an argument that the mainstream left refuses to directly engage with. In typical self-righteous fashion, lefties go for the moral, ethical, and legal arguments against the use of torture.<\/p>\n<p>And I agree that torture is unethical. But I think it&#8217;s worth asking, <a href=\"http:\/\/debatewire.org\/debate\/Never_mind_ethics_morals_or_human_rights\">is torture really that effective?!<\/a> The very possibility of a &#8220;yes&#8221; makes the question offensive to most people, but it&#8217;s actually a pretty interesting one to ponder. I think the answer depends on what it&#8217;s supposed to be effective for.<\/p>\n<p>It seems pretty stupid to torture someone to get information. I don&#8217;t have reports, statistics, or historical evidence to back this up. It just seems like common sense: push a human being right up to their threshold of withstandable pain and the brink of insanity, and you know, they might get a little disoriented. I wouldn&#8217;t bet my life on the names, dates or locations screamed out by someone in an oxygen-deprived state trying to avoid death by drowning. That&#8217;s just me. Maybe the military has different standards for information quality.<\/p>\n<p>If torture doesn&#8217;t work, is it good for anything else? Sure, lots of things!<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s good for putting the fear of God in your darker-skinned enemies. It&#8217;s good for quenching the populist thirst for revenge. It&#8217;s good for creating jobs for private security contractors while people back home can barely scrape by. In short, it&#8217;s good for distracting Americans from the real political and economic problems of the day. Problems that will impact ordinary people&#8217;s lives much more directly than any crazed terrorist ever will.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Discussions about torture in the public sphere seem like a classic case of people talking past one another. Military and government officials assert that torture is justified because it&#8217;s effective, an argument that the mainstream left refuses to directly engage with. In typical self-righteous fashion, lefties go for the moral, ethical, and legal arguments against &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/2007\/11\/13\/the-uses-of-torture\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Uses of Torture&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/codefork.com\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}